Measurement · Nose and lips
Lip ratio: lower lip versus upper lip
Lower-lip height compared with upper-lip height.
Updated · Written by the LookFlex team · General information, not medical advice
Limited evidenceThe popular golden-ratio claim for lips is not supported; no study sets an ideal lip ratio.
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What lip ratio is
Lip ratio compares the height of your lower lip with the height of your upper lip. A classic balance is a lower lip somewhat taller than the upper, and a ratio of about 1.5 is often quoted. A value near 1.0 means the two lips are equal in height, and values above 2.0 mean the lower lip is much fuller.
Lips are a small area with a large effect on the face's character, and they change with hydration, expression and light. The ratio is best used as a gentle guide to makeup, grooming and how your lips appear in photos.
In the LookFlex app this measurement appears as Lip balance.
How LookFlex measures it
LookFlex measures the height of the upper lip, from the top edge to the line where the lips meet, and the height of the lower lip, from that line to the bottom edge, and divides the lower by the upper. Because the measure is a pure ratio of two heights, it does not depend on image size.
Pressed or pursed lips hide the red part of the lip and shift the ratio, and so does a smile that stretches the upper lip thin. A relaxed, closed mouth is the most reliable pose.
The calculation: ratio = lower-lip height ÷ upper-lip height.
Landmarks used
LookFlex reads these points from the 478-landmark face mesh. The numbers are each point's index in that mesh.
- Top of the upper lip: 0
- Line where the lips meet: 13, 14
- Bottom of the lower lip: 17
The full pipeline, including how pose and mirror-averaging reduce noise, is on how LookFlex measures your face.
Typical and scoring ranges
LookFlex shows two ranges. The typical range is the middle half of its reference set, from the 25th to the 75th percentile: half of the faces fell inside it. The scoring range is where a reading earns a closeness score of 100; outside it the score falls smoothly, with no cliff at the edge. The scoring range is the same for everyone, while the typical range follows each group's own median. Unit: unitless ratio.
| Group | Typical range | Scoring range | Reference-set median |
|---|---|---|---|
| Men | 1.51–1.90 | 1.40–2.00 | 1.70 |
| Women | 1.53–1.92 | 1.40–2.00 | 1.73 |
| Other or prefer not to say | 1.52–1.91 | 1.40–2.00 | 1.71 |
How to read your result
"The range" here means the scoring range. The impressions below are common styling descriptions, not research findings. What research does show is in the next section.
- Below the range: The upper lip is relatively full: a soft, pouty balance.
- Inside the range: A lip ratio inside the scoring range.
- Above the range: The lower lip is notably fuller: a bold balance.
What the research says
Limited evidence The popular golden-ratio claim for lips is not supported; no study sets an ideal lip ratio.
- The popular golden-ratio face mask fits many faces poorly (Holland, 2008), and we found no study supporting a 1.618 lip ratio.
- Real faces vary widely in their proportions (Farkas et al., 1985).
No study we cite tests LookFlex's own ranges. They come from the calibration described on the methodology page, and every source is listed under References below.
What influences it
Mostly fixed
- The shape and volume of the lips, which are anatomical and inherited.
- Age, which can change lip volume.
Things that move the reading
- Hydration and dryness. Dry or flaky lips blur the lip line and change the measurement.
- Expression. Tension, a smile or pressed lips all change visible lip heights.
- Lip colour, liner and balm, which change how the lips read.
- Sun exposure, which can dry the lips.
How to improve how it reads
These suggestions change how the measurement reads or how well the photo captures it. Styling tips are common practice rather than tested in research, and none of them promises a change in bone structure.
- Use a balm with SPF 30 or higher in daylight, and keep lips hydrated.
- If you exfoliate, be gentle. A soft cloth after brushing is enough.
- Use liner or colour that follows your natural line to rebalance how the lips read.
- Scan with a relaxed, closed mouth and a neutral face.
- Avoid DIY plumping tools and injections. If you want a change, discuss it with a board-certified professional.
Common myths
- Myth: There is a golden-ratio lip proportion everyone should have.
- The idea that a lower lip should be exactly 1.618 times the upper is a popular claim. A well-known golden-ratio facial mask fits many faces poorly (Holland, 2008), and we found no study supporting a 1.618 lip ratio. LookFlex's range is 1.40–2.00, which spans the typical values in its reference set up to a fuller lower lip.
- Myth: Fuller is always better.
- Fuller lower lips are the preferred direction in the conventions LookFlex uses, but proportion, colour and expression matter at least as much.
How it feeds your score
This measurement is one input to one sub-score, which then combine into your Glow Score:
- Harmony: 10% of the sub-score. Harmony carries 22% of the Glow Score.
Precision. Every reading of this measurement comes with a 95% margin, estimated by measuring your photo three times. Across the reference set the median margin was ±0.10: a retake in similar conditions usually lands within that much of the first reading. A change between two scans counts as real only when it is bigger than both scans' margins combined.
Confidence. LookFlex starts this measurement at a confidence of 75% and lowers it when your head angle, the lighting or image quality weakens the reading. The weight of each input in a sub-score scales with its confidence. Details are on the methodology page.
Frequently asked questions
What is a good lip ratio?
We found no study that sets one. LookFlex scores 1.40–2.00 as in range for everyone, and the reference set's median was about 1.7.
Why are the ranges the same for men and women?
The reference set showed similar medians for both sexes, so LookFlex did not need separate bands. Fullness is sensitive to makeup and grooming, which are personal.
Does lip colour change the measurement?
It can. Lipstick that matches the surrounding skin hides the vermilion border, and a defined colour shows it. LookFlex measures landmarks, but the detector can place them differently when the lip line is clear. For consistent results, scan without strong lip colour.
Is lip ratio the same as lip fullness?
No. The ratio compares the two lips with each other. Total lip fullness compared with mouth width is a different quantity, and this ratio does not measure it.
Related measurements
- Mouth-to-nose width ratioMouth width compared with nose width, and why expression moves it so much.
- Chin-to-philtrum ratioChin height compared with the space between your nose and upper lip.
- Nose width ratioNose width at the base compared with the gap between your eyes.
References
Every DOI was checked against Crossref. The evidence label says how much weight a source can carry alone. See how we choose sources on the research page.
- Farkas LG, Hreczko TA, Kolar JC, Munro IR (1985). Vertical and horizontal proportions of the face in young adult North American Caucasians: revision of neoclassical canons. Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery. doi:10.1097/00006534-198503000-00005Moderate evidenceCross-sectional study
- Holland E (2008). Marquardt's Phi mask: pitfalls of relying on fashion models and the golden ratio to describe a beautiful face. Aesthetic Plastic Surgery. doi:10.1007/s00266-007-9080-zLimited evidenceReview
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